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    DeSantis delivered Covid booster warning as Florida led the nation in hospitalizations
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    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The warning from Gov.

    ' administration against getting Covid boosters couldn’t have come at a worse time.

    DeSantis’ hand-picked surgeon general,

    , last Wednesday urged people under 65 not to get the newly approved mRNA-boosters, just days after Florida ranked first in the nation for Covid-related hospitalizations.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released data showing Florida’s hospitalization rate was 10.65 per 100,000 residents during the week ending on Sept. 9. Washington, D.C. was next with 10.06 per 100,000, followed by Arkansas.

    In raw numbers, that means about 2,280 people in Florida were hospitalized for Covid-related health issues. It’s a far cry from the height of the pandemic, when the state was shattering nationwide records during the summer of 2021 with more than 10,000 hospitalizations, but still signifies an uptick in cases.


    Ladapo’s warning against getting the vaccine, announced during an online roundtable discussion hosted by DeSantis, follows the surgeon general’s skepticism toward vaccines and goes against recommendations from the CDC, FDA and others in the medical community.

    CDC Director Mandy Cohen, in response to Ladapo’s comments undermining the efficacy of the boosters, stressed the importance of vaccination ahead of winter and emphasized that vaccines are safe.

    “Since this Administration’s launch of the largest adult vaccination program in our nation’s history, COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of lives and kept countless people out of the hospital,” Cohen wrote. “Public health experts are in broad agreement about these facts, and efforts to undercut vaccine uptake are unfounded and dangerous."

    Jaye Williams, Florida Department of Health spokesperson, said Ladapo’s guidance speaks for itself despite Florida leading the nation in hospitalizations.

    “[Ladapo’s] making the guidance based on the data he’s seen,” Williams said.

    Williams also cited state reports showing a continued drop in Covid-19 infections throughout Florida. The rate of new infections was 16 percent in the week ending on Sept. 9, down by 4 percent from the previous week, according to the state report.

    A review of the weekly DOH reports shows Florida saw a spike in Covid infections through August, similar to previous years during the pandemic when there was an increase as schools resumed after summer break.

    It’s unclear, however, how exactly Ladapo’s guidance will affect Florida’s Covid situation. Michael Teng, virologist and associate dean at the University of South Florida, said many Floridians who were hospitalized are 65 or older — the group that the surgeon general didn’t advise against getting boosters. Teng said, in general, the elderly population should be more concerned about the virus and vaccinations than younger people.

    “If it were just about prioritizing the elderly, the more at-risk population, that would be one thing,” Teng said in an interview. “But the surgeon general has actively gone and told people not to get the shot if you're below 65, even though the CDC has recommended it for everybody in the United States.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-delivered-covid-booster-warning-120000107.html
     
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      And we live by that decision because it's a freedom of choice
       
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    So I'm confused (not really) why I used your source "Politico" to prove Ron's crime rate but then you use an outside source to prove its wrong..... Then you use politico again to make a stupid vaccine point.....

    Hmmmmm that seems very hypothetical.... oh wait.... it is!!! Bunch of fucking hypocrites!!!!!! And definitely typical of you fucking dumbocrats, don't like the info, then change it to fit your ignorant narrative!
     
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      No actually as I have documented many times now you are not confused. You are deluded.
       
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    ‘Waiting for him to drop out’: DeSantis’ influence nosedives in Florida
    Gary Fineout and Kimberly Leonard
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    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Gov.

    is losing his clout in Florida.

    College boards, stacked with DeSantis appointees, are rejecting job candidates with ties to the governor.

    The chair of the Republican Party of Florida urged executive committee members to attend all GOP candidate events — giving cover to party faithful who want to attend a dinner at Mar-a-Lago with former President

    .

    And the board that oversees many of Florida’s affordable housing programs this month placed on leave its executive director, who was helped into the job by a top DeSantis adviser.

    Interviews with nearly two dozen lobbyists, political consultants and lawmakers revealed that DeSantis’ struggles as a presidential candidate have already eroded his influence in Florida. There is a widespread expectation that his candidacy will end in failure. His standing at home may depend on how long he slogs forward in the presidential campaign — and how he will manage his exit from the race if he eventually drops out.


    Now, it may be just a matter of time before Florida Republicans, once unflinchingly loyal, seek distance from DeSantis and his hardball governing methods.

    "You don't get the assumption they are measuring drapes anymore — they are waiting for him to drop out," one long-time Republican consultant in Tallahassee said of those working for the governor. The consultant, like others quoted in this story, was granted anonymity to freely discuss the sensitive situation.

    State Rep. Daniel Perez, the Miami Republican in line to become the next state House speaker, urged his GOP colleagues this week to move more carefully in the future, saying that “the problem with wielding the power of government like a hammer is that the people start looking like nails.”

    Perez insisted his comment was not a “message to the governor,” but added, “That being said, the Legislature can't work alone, the Legislature works with the governor.”

    And no matter how he framed his comments, Perez’s words were being viewed as a rejoinder to DeSantis. One Tallahassee lobbyist said it was a signal that the “conveyor belt” Legislature that passed whatever DeSantis wanted is coming to an end.

    DeSantis is one of Florida’s most powerful governors and has used his influence and sway over the past five years to transform politics in the state, including getting the Republican-controlled Legislature to bow to his agenda.

    He reshaped the state’s education system by installing allies in top university positions and pushed legislation that limits how race and gender are taught. He endorsed dozens of K-12 school board candidates in the wake of the pandemic in an effort to help Republicans control all levers of state government. He’s used his power to suspend elected officials, including two Democratic prosecutors, while strong-arming his own party to approve congressional redistricting maps that favored Republicans.

    He's also known for his combative streak, willing to fight major corporations like the Walt Disney Co., Google and the cruise line industry.

    But DeSantis’ troubles on the campaign trail have emboldened some in his party who are exhausted by his aggressive tactics. The state party last week rescinded a loyalty pledge that would have obligated the GOP primary candidates to endorse the eventual Republican presidential nominee, a stunning turnaround made at the behest of Trump supporters and against DeSantis’ wishes.

    A major lobbyist in Tallahassee said: “There’s no love lost between the Legislature and DeSantis. ... They are faking it. They are waiting long enough to see the king drained of all his power. It’s a slow-motion coup.”

    Beyond the capitol, trustees at Pasco-Hernando State College, a small public school near Tampa, bucked DeSantis this week by choosing a new president over an official from the governor’s administration, state Juvenile Justice Secretary Eric Hall, who was a finalist for the position, the Tampa Bay Times reported this week.

    It was surprising, because the majority of trustees of the college were appointed by DeSantis in June.

    Earlier this month, the board of the Florida Housing Finance Corporation, the state’s affordable housing agency, placed its executive director on leave over allegations that he created a hostile work environment, among other issues. The executive director, Mike DiNapoli, was appointed by DeSantis.

    And billionaire Ken Griffin, who moved to Miami recently, previously spent $10 million total on DeSantis’ 2018 and 2022 gubernatorial elections. But he told CNBC that he’s sitting out the 2024 cycle and doesn’t understand who DeSantis is trying to appeal to.

    The governor still has his supporters — and those who fear him. Most of the people interviewed for this story were granted anonymity because they worried about retribution.

    State Rep. Alex Andrade, a Pensacola Republican who endorsed DeSantis, contended that the governor continues to enjoy strong support among legislators and said sarcastically that it was “shocking that some people in politics are fair weather actors.”

    “He’s still a very effective governor, he’s the most effective governor I have had a front seat to watch,” Andrade said. “He still has the veto pen.”

    Andrade also added: “I see him as governor. I couldn't care less what is going on nationally.”

    GOP House Speaker Paul Renner, who also endorsed the governor, said DeSantis had the “session of the century” just a few months ago and that “you would have to go back to Jeb Bush to find a governor with this kind of a record.” Bush, notably, ran for president in 2016 but dropped out after the South Carolina primary because he was unable to excite the electorate.

    “Not having a perfect record is not a sign of collapsing strength,” Renner said.

    Likewise, the state Republican chair, Christian Ziegler, has pledged to remain neutral in the presidential race despite the recent move urging some party members to attend all GOP events just days after Trump invited Florida Republicans to a dinner at his South Florida resort.

    Yet some state lawmakers are still bitter that DeSantis’ campaign asked Florida lawmakers to fundraise for him ahead of the GOP debate in August, according to a former Republican officeholder who spoke with them.

    “Few members of the Legislature have a relationship with Ron DeSantis,” the person said. “He’s like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain. You can't get to him. All you hear about is the great and powerful Oz.”

    Bryan Griffin, press secretary for DeSantis’ campaign, asserted that the Florida Legislature and state leaders support the governor.

    “Of course lobbyists, the D.C. crowd, and the agenda-driven college board members will have unpleasant things to say — Ron DeSantis stood up to all of them to do the right thing and deliver for his constituents,” he said in a statement.

    State lawmakers will likely be hesitant to openly defy the governor in the immediate future. But the next legislative session, beginning in January, will be underway as Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina are voting, and early wins by Trump could effectively end DeSantis’ campaign and dilute his clout in Florida.

    Asked about the governor’s standing in Florida, the Trump campaign described DeSantis as “dropping like a rock,” and “failing badly.”

    This week, three different Republican members of Florida’s congressional delegation, including Trump stalwarts Reps. Matt Gaetz and Byron Donalds, also began floating their names as candidates for the governor’s race that’s three years away, a move viewed by many as a sign of DeSantis’ waning influence since they wouldn’t rely on his endorsement.

    Democrats, who have little power under the GOP-supermajority Legislature, say they’re also seeing signs of the governor's dwindling power. House Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell of Tampa predicted that if DeSantis were to lose the GOP nomination, he would be a very weak lame-duck governor.

    “I don’t know that the Legislature is going to play ball with him in the same way that they have previously,” she said, though she pointed out that DeSantis would still wield power over the budget.

    State Rep. Vicki Lopez, a Miami Republican who had been an advocate and lobbyist over the past few decades before getting elected last year, said it was a “unique” situation to have a governor running for president.

    But Lopez predicted that once Perez becomes speaker, lawmakers would again drive the agenda — not the governor.

    “I remember a time when the House was the House, the Senate was the Senate, and oh, by the way, there’s the governor’s office on the plaza level [of the state Capitol],” she said.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/waiting-him-drop-desantis-influence-090000475.html
     
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    Well maybe if Trump decides to drop out. Ron Desanctimonious can again go crying to Trump. And beg him to resurrect his campaign. :wacky:
     
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    Didja see, camp follower?
    Biden is even losing support among despicables.
    Well, except for the truly deluded ones.
    Despicables say Biden is too old and feeble to go the distance.
    So, what's your vote gonna be, Biden or?
     
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    Here's something Biden would NEVER do...


    The Hill
    DeSantis suspends scholarships to Florida schools with ‘ties to the Chinese Communist Party’
    Tara Suter
    Sat, September 23, 2023 at 6:59 PM EDT·2 min read
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) office announced Friday the suspension of school choice scholarships to four schools over their alleged “direct ties to the Chinese Communist Party.”

    “Through a thorough investigation, [the Florida Department of Education] has determined that Lower and Upper Sagemont Preparatory Schools in Weston, Parke House Academy in Winter Park, and Park Maitland School in Winter Park have direct ties to the CCP and their connections constitute an imminent threat to the health, safety, and welfare of these school’s students and the public,” reads a news release from the governor’s office.

    The release also noted a bill DeSantis signed into law in May barring private schools in the state from “participating in an educational scholarship program” if they are “owned or operated by a person or an entity domiciled in, owned by, or in any way controlled by a foreign country of concern or foreign principal.” The law then references a different law that lists China as a “country of concern.”


    “The Chinese Communist Party is not welcome in the state of Florida,” DeSantis said in the release. “We will not put up with any attempt to influence students with a communist ideology or allow Floridians’ tax dollars to go to schools that are connected to our foreign adversaries.”

    The schools are part of “a multi-brand education network” called Spring Education Group. On the schools’ websites, the group says it is “controlled by Primavera Holdings Limited, an investment firm (together with its affiliates) principally based in Hong Kong with operations in China, Singapore, and the United States, that is itself owned by Chinese persons residing in Hong Kong.”

    DeSantis has also recently signed bills that ban Chinese citizens from buying land in Florida and make the state’s Department of Management Services “create a list of prohibited applications owned by a foreign principal or foreign countries of concern, including China, which present a cybersecurity and data privacy risk.”

    A federal judge denied a request by Chinese citizens to halt the land ownership law in August.

    For the latest news, weather, sports, and streaming video, head to The Hill.
     
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    Here’s How Much Ron DeSantis’s Stupid Culture-War Laws Cost Taxpayers
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    has hinged his struggling presidential campaign on how he successfully passed a battery of ultraconservative laws in Florida. But what he doesn’t like to mention is the millions of taxpayer dollars he has wasted as courts repeatedly knock those laws down.

    The Republican-controlled state legislature has helped DeSantis easily take on some of the right’s favorite culture wars. He gutted abortion rights, LGBTQ protections, and academic freedom. He also has been locked in a bizarre legal back-and-forth with Disney for the past year. He has repeatedly held up these accomplishments as signs of success.

    In reality, DeSantis has spent more than $17 million defending his terrible laws in court since he took office. As a result, the state budget for 2023 includes a $15.8 million allotment just to defend his policies.

    That allotment includes $6 million for the governor’s office, compared to just $1.6 million last year. The State University System Board of Governors received an extra $2 million to defend DeSantis’s “Stop Woke” Act, and the attorney general’s office got an additional $5 million to defend the state’s backward Covid-19 vaccination policies.


    The extra money for legal costs means that DeSantis is able to hire outside (and much more expensive) lawyers to defend his policies. So far, his administration has spent the most defending laws restricting voting rights, transgender health care, and academic freedom. But despite his best efforts, and his hefty coffers, most of those laws were still overturned.

    DeSantis’s administration has already allocated more than $875,000 for lawsuits this year alone. The Florida governor’s office hired the law firm Holtzman Vogel Baran Torchinsky & Josefiak to defend two laws blocking access to gender-affirming care. The government signed a contract with the firm in April for $400,000 to defend a law banning gender-affirming care for trans minors and restricting it for adults. Under that law, medical facilities could lose their license if they offered health care to trans or nonbinary children.

    Federal Judge Robert Hinkle temporarily blocked the law in early June, citing multiple doctors who testified against the law that “denial of this treatment will cause needless suffering for a substantial number of patients and will increase anxiety, depression, and the risk of suicide.” The law is still making its way through the courts—and DeSantis may be forced to spend even more money defending it.

    DeSantis also signed a contract with Holtzman Vogel for $300,000 to defend the Florida law prohibiting Medicaid from covering gender-affirming care. Hinkle struck down that law as well, ruling that it violated federal policies on Medicaid, equal protection, and the Affordable Care Act’s ban on discriminating based on sex. The state of Florida has appealed the ruling.

    In July, the nonprofit Vote.org sued to block Florida’s “wet signature” law, which requires that voter registration forms be signed with wet ink. This means that people have to either register in person or sign and then mail in their registration, as opposed to registering electronically. Vote.org is arguing that the law violates the Voting Rights Act.

    A trial date has not yet been set, but DeSantis’s administration has signed another contract with Holtzman Vogel in May agreeing to pay the firm $125,000 to defend the law in court.

    DeSantis developed this habit of burning through taxpayer dollars since he assumed the governor’s office in 2019. In 2018, the League of Women Voters sued to overturn a statewide ban on early voting locations on college campuses. Then-Governor Rick Scott’s administration signed a $150,000 contract in June with the firm Hopping Green & Sams to defend the ban.

    When DeSantis took office, he extended the contract by two years and agreed to pay Hopping Green an additional $30,000. The lawsuit was settled in 2020 when the secretary of state agreed to allow early voting sites on campuses. But it appears the DeSantis administration has yet to pay the firm the extra fee.

    These laws, and the many others like them that Republicans are passing across the country, are not actually meant to be good. They aren’t really even meant to stand up in court. The goal is to stoke culture wars and scapegoat people who don’t adhere to strictly conservative lifestyles.

    The laws are also meant to make DeSantis seem like a warrior for far-right values. They’re the reason he is able to promise to “make America Florida.”

    But the fact is, the laws aren’t paying off, in every sense of the word. Not only are they costing his state millions, but they also belie the true extent of DeSantis’s influence.

    DeSantis was able to force these laws through because the Republican Party controlled both chambers in the state legislature. Most of his policies are unpopular among voters, and they aren’t doing much better on the national level.

    The Florida governor has plummeted in opinion polls in recent months. Once hailed as the natural successor to Donald Trump, DeSantis now trails Trump by a huge margin. In some polls, he ranks even lower than second place.

    His powerful former backers are deserting him over his inability to appeal to the general public. One billionaire Republican donor, hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin, was DeSantis’s biggest donor during the 2022 election, giving $5 million to his gubernatorial reelection campaign.

    But Griffin has yet to say whether he will back DeSantis for president. “I don’t know his strategy,” Griffin told CNBC a few weeks ago. “It’s not clear to me what voter base he is intending to appeal to.”

    In particular, DeSantis’s bizarre battle with Disney “is pointless,” Griffin said. “It doesn’t reflect well on the ethos of Florida.”

    Even DeSantis’s own state GOP is starting to rebel against him. A Republican consultant in Tallahassee told Politico that the state party is just “waiting for him to drop out.”

    The state Republican Party revoked a DeSantis-backed pledge to endorse whoever the Republican presidential nominee is. Front-runner Donald Trump’s supporters have been calling for such a reversal.

    And at Pasco-Hernando State College, the board of trustees—stacked with DeSantis allies—passed over a DeSantis official for the college president.

    Republican state Representative Daniel Perez told his colleagues last week to be careful going forward, warning that the “problem with wielding the power of government like a hammer is that the people start looking like nails.”

    Perez has denied that he was speaking about DeSantis, but another Tallahassee lobbyist said it was a signal to the governor that the legislature would no longer act as a “conveyor belt” for whatever laws he wants.

    So in the end, all of DeSantis’s signature laws have come back to bite him. The policies that were supposed to make him look strong have ended up eroding his power and his appeal.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/much-ron-desantis-stupid-culture-100000113.html
     
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    I don't know how you come up with this stupid shit.... Oh yeah from your girls on the view!

    Anyways, all the shit that you post on Ron, never makes it to our news stations... hmmmm wonder why.....? Maybe because we don't give a shit what you think & we are pleased with the job Ron is doing!

    However, to clear up some of the mud;
    He gutted abortion rights. Nope he just moved it from 15 weeks to 6. Although I don't necessarily agree, I understand the humanitarian reasons behind it.

    He gutted LGBTQ protections. Again that is wrong. We have plenty of facilities, bars & clubs here in Fl. for these individuals. In addition, we have strong laws that protect these people. Specially after the Pulse massacre. Keywest is a well known city for gays. What Ron did stop was the sexual content of this into our schools. A far cry from gutting their rights! But more about protecting the children & family rights.

    He gutted academic freedom. Nope! Giving the parents the right to have a voice in their children's life. Again, protecting the children & family rights. In addition, he shutdown CCP schools. Like who needs that shit in America!

    Just to add a bit more, from all the BS you & others have cited about Ron, not one protest or local media coverage. Not even from the radicals here in florida. ONLY OUTSIDERS LOOKING IN!!!! Just like your fake goonies that showed up in a democratic city, demonstrating white power and their swastika badges. Only in efforts to make Ron look bad. But guess what, that shit doesn’t work here!!!
     
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    Desantis is now trailing Nimarata. Maybe Ron Desanctimonious should've taken Trump's advice and stayed out of the race. :joyful:
     
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    WATCH: Ron DeSantis Kills It on Bill Maher, Has the Lib Audience Cheering
    By Bonchie | 8:42 AM on September 30, 2023


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    Ron DeSantis, who was in California to speak to the state's GOP, appeared with Bill Maher on Friday evening, and it went well.

    Pressed on everything from COVID-19 to abortion, the Florida governor had the liberal audience cheering at times as he delivered conservative answers.




    It only took a few seconds for DeSantis to get his first round of applause, touting that he made vaccine mandates illegal in Florida. Given Maher's skepticism about left-wing COVID hysteria, that was a smart strategic play to soften the room before getting into the tougher questions.

    Maher took a few shots after, which shouldn't anger any Republican because that is the point of his show (everyone should learn to laugh a little more). DeSantis then got serious when pressed on what makes him unique in the field, noting that the nation needs actual accountability for the government's COVID regime, including mandates and lockdowns. The audience ate that up.

    Next, Maher brought up the idea that DeSantis campaigned for supposed "election deniers" in 2022, including Kari Lake. He was ready, though, and turned the issue around on Democrats.

    https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom...-mahar-has-the-lib-audience-cheering-n2164499


    MAHER: That's not a dealbreaker issue for you? That's not democracy?

    DESANTIS: Well, okay, let's go back to 2016. Your friends in Hollywood were cutting ads telling the electoral college to vote against Trump in the electoral college because it was stolen. They said Russia stole the election. For years they said. So don't act like this is a unique thing in the modern history of the country.

    I would have never expected that line to get the audience clapping, but it did. Perhaps the California-based liberals who make up Maher's in-person fanbase do have some self-awareness after all?

    Another moment didn't really have much to do with what DeSantis said as much as what Maher said. The host pivoted to a piece by The New York Times that tried to attack Florida's COVID response.

    The attempt to rewrite history for political gain (by people on both sides) about what happened in Florida during the COVID pandemic has been absolutely mind-numbing. On one side, you've got liberals claiming that the place was a hellscape despite age-adjusted death rates (age was the top factor in COVID deaths) showing Florida did better than the national average. Florida was one of the first states to open in 2020, and DeSantis didn't rest on his laurels after that. He went much further, outlawing mask and vaccine mandates and spending the next year fighting local municipalities that wanted to keep mitigation measures in place.

    For his trouble, he was accused of murdering people and given the moniker "DeathSantis." Astonishing, though, some on the right have taken to claiming that Florida was a locked-down dystopian nightmare, which is news to me given I took a beach vacation there in June of 2020, eating in person at restaurants and never being asked to don a mask. Politics is politics, I suppose. Regardless, it was great to see that a Republican could receive a warm reception in even a liberal setting by touting freedom as opposed to government intervention.

    Getting back to some of the questions, Maher brought up DeSantis' war on woke ideology (4:37 in the clip below).

    DeSantis explained how woke ideology isn't just an abstract, but has very real consequences on society, noting how California's crime rate is exploding due to attempts at so-called "criminal justice reform." Lastly, Maher brought up abortion, and DeSantis stood by the state's six-week abortion ban, saying that the legislature decided that a detectable heartbeat was the viable standard for enforcement. Obviously, he didn't get the cheering on that one (again, this is in California), but it was important to see him stick to his guns. Republicans can't waffle on the issue of abortion and expect to get anything but more abortions. Make the case, don't surrender.

    And look, I know the response to this by some is going to be "Well, did you know Trump is up eleven-billion points!" Yeah, I get it. Trump is leading four months before the first primary and he's the presumptive nominee. I'm not arguing that. I just don't care in this context. We praise Republicans who do good things on this site regardless of their standing in any primary. DeSantis stepped out of his comfort zone and made the GOP seem more relatable to a hostile audience. That's a good thing.
     
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    They probably won't toss trump leads at this but they'll probably toss Trump tried to overthrow the government at it.

    One track minds.
     
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    We see where the Biden administration did a lot of sketchy shit trying to keep dissention and different views of covid vaccines off the air.
    Would that what you're talking about camp follower?

    Or are you talking about the thousands of pages of transcripts and evidence the Nancy Antoinette star chamber has hidden away?
     
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    We see where the Biden administration did a lot of sketchy shit trying to keep dissention and different views of covid vaccines off the air.
    Would that what you're talking about camp follower?

    Or are you talking about the thousands of pages of transcripts and evidence the Nancy Antoinette star chamber has hidden away?
     
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    So this "star chamber" is hiding pro Trump evidence. If so, then why hasn't Trump and GOP investigated this? Or is the deep state just too powerful?

    Enlighten us :O_o:
     
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    camp follower trolling dismissed.
    Again.
     
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