Trump accused of consulting chatbots after critics mock tariffs on islands of penguins.
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Critics suspect Trump’s weird tariff math came from chatbots
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So-called "reciprocal tariffs." There's nothing actually reciprocal about them.
A good description I saw online yesterday: you don't have a "trade deficit" with your dentist because you buy stuff from them but they (probably) don't buy stuff from you.
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There is a reason the CEO-class is so convinced AGI is "just around the corner": They are using their own 'GI' as the baseline measure that needs to be met.
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1: If Middle Earth is tariffed at 45% and Mordor is tariffed at 29%, wouldn't that mean Mordor is getting double tariffed?
2: No shot Trump would tariff Mordor or Mars.
3: Wakanda only 22% tariff? Please, that would at least be 70%.
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That Mars tariff is going to upset Elon., especially since Jupiter is getting such preferential treatment!
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Quite honestly, even tea leaves or other occult references, would seem credible at this point. AI just seems to be the new take?
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We got rid of Liz Truss 27 days after she tanked our economy.
It’s not a competition, but the US needs to beat this.
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David Mayer
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This clearly highlights the problem with AI run government, you still have to trust the people prompting the AI and feeding it data.
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David Mayer
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Americans 3 months ago:
What's the difference between the Dollar and the Ruble? About a dollar
Chinese Soon:
What's the difference between the Chinese Yuan and the Dollar? About a Yuan.
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It won't be gradual, though. It might be gradual at first and then suddenly all at once. FOMO tends to mitigate against gradual re-alignments, and the need for orderly supply chains similarly tends to create a selective force that way.
This is the problem with economists who assume rational actors: they forget Clausewitz's dictum that wars are fought by human beings.
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Trump won the popular vote, unfortunately. 77 million morons voted for him compared to 74 million for Kamala.
Fascism came to America in 2024, wrapped in a flag and with a Bible on top.
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I realize that one should never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
But there's definitely a malice component at work as well, as with anything that Trump and his Nazis do.
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RickRoyLeonPrisZhoraRacha
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Nah, but vindictive individuals have some clever tricks...and there are some profiting from the markets. This is all just a game to the orange mobster. Until lives are lost. Then they come with torches and pitchforks and no sane guard is gonna get $40/hr to put their own life above orange mobster.
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"Dear ChatGPT, how do I fix the American healthcare system without taking away profits? And isn't Communist?
Thank you,
President Trump"
Thank you,
President Trump"
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The median businessman has no idea how capitalism works; at the 90th percentile they are actively opposed.
Mercantilists believe every transaction is zero-sum (with the possible exception of extraction of raw materials). They view someone else's gain as necessarily their loss. They reject the concept of productivity out of hand.
Mercantilists believe every transaction is zero-sum (with the possible exception of extraction of raw materials). They view someone else's gain as necessarily their loss. They reject the concept of productivity out of hand.
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Well Mr. Squidward, the way I see it there are three possibilities...
They used chat bots without understanding what they are and can and can't do and didn't know or bother to check anything, because they're dumb;
The lied in such a ridiculous and lazy way, thinking anyone would be fooled, because they're dumb and/or know their base will eat it up no matter what, because they're dumb;
They did it themselves and are just plain dumb.
They used chat bots without understanding what they are and can and can't do and didn't know or bother to check anything, because they're dumb;
The lied in such a ridiculous and lazy way, thinking anyone would be fooled, because they're dumb and/or know their base will eat it up no matter what, because they're dumb;
They did it themselves and are just plain dumb.
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Quick pop quiz.
- What part of the US is suitable for growing coffee?
- What countries that do grow coffee, have just had arbitrary tariffs applied to their goods?
- Who pays tariffs? The buyer or the seller?
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The EU is, for all practical commercial aspects, a single federal country.
Just don't tell the Europeans, who are careful not to think about it that way.
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It's a sign of our economic power and standing the world that we buy tons of stuff from all over the world.
Well, it was. The guy you're defending is destroying more than a century's worth of alliance because he doesn't understand the concept of "soft power." Or "alliances" for that matter.
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David Mayer
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If you define winning the popular vote as getting the most votes instead of getting over 50% of the votes, sure.
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Well of course you are correct but I wasn't being serious, as I thought obvious.
I was making a feeble joke suggesting Russian influence on the tariff calculations.
Having learned both Greek and Cyrillic manuscript, I would also point out with all due respect that in manuscript the forms of epsilon and phi can be much more similar in Greek and Cyrillic than your example face. When Cyril and his followers started documenting Slavic, the letters in Greek and Cyril's orthography were identical. It goes the other way too; handwritten ш in Cyrillic shows hardly any resemblance to handwritten shin in Hebrew, but the printed forms are recognisably similar.
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What are the odds Trump will soon think that paying interest is for suckers and just stop? It would be crazy, but it is really too crazy? What you ask is going to happen about 5 seconds after that.
You wish. Truss at least was sensible enough to try and walk it back eventually and was then booted for the stupidity. (Yes I know she resigned, but come on, she was kicked out)
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This is terrible but it's also so very funny. Trump (and the american and increasingly global right) is impossible to satirize; it would be like trying to make fun of the sun because it's bright. "Literally the most powerful/wealthy nation on earth and maybe in the history of the human race tanked itself and the world economy because it asked an 'AI' what countries have been mean to them" is ... several levels of nonsense, and seeing all this play out in real time is pretty incredible, but also not good because it's real.
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